Mahdi A. on Life Experience and Making Friends in Berlin
Mahdi A. talks in an interview about the initial difficulties in meeting his classmates in Berlin and how he dealt with the experience of marginalization. He also addresses other refugees and the German society.
“Als ich anfangs zur Schule gegangen bin, war es sehr schwer, die Stimmung war sehr unfreundlich. Die anderen Kinder haben mich meistens ausgelacht, weil ich viele Wörter auf Deutsch falsch ausgesprochen habe. Die waren jünger als ich, ich war damals 15 oder 16 und war viel reifer als sie. Die anderen waren 14 und hatten eine andere Vorstellung vom Leben. Deswegen war es sehr schwer am Anfang.
Ich habe mich daraufhin nicht selbst abgewertet, sondern habe mir gesagt, dass die anderen Jugendlichen Kinder sind, die nichts vom Leben erfahren haben – die nicht wissen, was ich durchgemacht habe. Hätte ich die Wahl gehabt, wäre ich auch nicht gekommen – aber ich konnte nicht nach Afghanistan abgeschoben werden. Dort hatte ich kein Leben. Ich bin nicht freiwillig hergekommen, ich hatte keine andere Wahl. Das haben viele nicht verstanden. […]
Jetzt denken manchmal Lehrer in der Schule, dass ich hier geboren wurde. Am Anfang, wenn ich Deutsch spreche, denken sie, dass ich von hier komme oder zumindest seit vielen Jahren hier bin, aber wenn ich ihnen sage, dass ich erst seit 2016 hier bin, sind sie überrascht. Ich bin stolz darauf. Und ich kann auch sagen, dass ich ein anderes Leben hatte.
Ich habe Kontakt mit vielen Jugendlichen in meinem Alter: mit Afghanen, Persern, Deutschen, Türken, Arabern, was auch immer. Ich habe zwei, drei richtige Freunde. Ich kenne hier sehr viele, aber ich würde die meisten nicht als richtige Freunde bezeichnen.
Um ganz ehrlich zu sein, würde ich sagen, dass ich viel mehr Erfahrungen gemacht habe als ein 25-Jähriger, der in Deutschland geboren ist. Weil ich Sachen erlebt habe, die man eigentlich nicht machen konnte, für die man Mut gebraucht hat. Zum Beispiel, um aus der Türkei nach Griechenland zu gehen – auf einem Boot, auf dem es gefährlich war, ohne schwimmen zu können, wo man sterben kann. Viele Jugendliche konnten es nicht machen. Die meisten deutschen Jugendlichen könnten nicht mal mit 15 alleine nach Spanien gehen. Aber ich habe das alles geschafft. Auch mit den Schmugglern klarzukommen, diese ganzen Sachen. […] Deswegen würde ich mich als eine starke Person beschreiben. […]
Für die Leute, die das lesen:
Falls Sie selbst geflüchtet sind, würde ich sagen: Bleibt stark, das Leben wird sich immer verbessern. Der Mond wird sich nicht immer hinter den Wolken verstecken. Und für andere Leute, die das lesen: Ihr solltet niemanden verurteilen. Niemand weiß von dem Leben anderer Menschen. Deswegen darf man das nicht verurteilen, wenn man nicht weiß, was im Leben passiert ist. Viele von den geflüchteten Menschen hatten keine andere Wahl. Das war nicht meine Entscheidung, im Iran geboren zu werden und mit Rassismus konfrontiert zu werden. Deswegen sollte man alle Menschen respektieren. Alle Menschen sind gleich.”
Interview mit Mahdi A. am 15.07.2020 in Berlin.
“When I first went to school, it was very hard, the atmosphere was very unfriendly. The other children mostly laughed at me because I mispronounced many words in German. They were younger than me, I was 15 or 16 at the time and was much more mature than them. The others were 14 and had a different idea about life. That’s why it was very difficult in the beginning.
I didn’t devalue myself as a result, but told myself that the other young people were children who hadn’t experienced anything of life – who didn’t know what I had gone through. If I had the choice, I would not have come either – but I couldn’t be deported to Afghanistan. I had no life there. I did not come here voluntarily, I had no other choice. Many people did not understand that. […]
Now sometimes teachers at school think that I was born here. In the beginning, when I speak German, they think that I come from here or at least that I have been here for many years, but when I tell them that I have only been here since 2016, they are surprised. I am proud of it. And I can also say that I had a different life.
I have contact with many young people of my age: Afghans, Persians, Germans, Turks, Arabs, whatever. I have two or three real friends. I know a lot of them, but I would not call most of them real friends.
My father is religious. I am Muslim. It is forbidden to drink alcohol in our country. And my father was afraid that I would start drinking beer when I came here. But that’s not really my thing. There are many young people who do it, but not me. I just go to school normally. I also played in the Deutsche Oper Theater for three years and that’s where I met other German teenagers. But it has nothing to do with [religion] whether I drink alcohol. You can decide everything yourself. […]
To be completely honest, I would say that I have had much more experience than a 25-year-old who was born in Germany. Because I have experienced things that one actually could not do, for which one needed courage. For example, to go from Turkey to Greece – on a boat where it was dangerous, without being able to swim, where you could die. Many young people could not do it. Most German young people could not even go to Spain alone when they were 15. But I managed to do it all, to deal with the smugglers and everything. […] That is why I would describe myself as a strong person. […]
For the people who read this:
If you are refugees themselves, I would say: Stay strong, life will always improve. The moon will not always hide behind the clouds. And for other people who read this: You should not judge anyone. Nobody knows about the lives of other people. Therefore, you should not condemn if you do not know what happened in life. Many of the people who fled had no other choice. It was not my decision to be born in Iran and to be confronted with racism. Therefore, one should respect all people. All people are equal.”
Interview with Mahdi A. on 15.07.2020 in Berlin.
Mahdi A. was born in December 2001 in Iran, in the capital Tehran. His parents came from Afghanistan, but had fled to Iran forty years earlier because of the war in Afghanistan. Mahdi’s mother died when he was still a child. Mahdi’s father is still in Iran, where he is in a constant state of emergency due to the poor economic situation. Mahdi has two little siblings who also live in Iran.
Since the end of the 1970s, many Afghans have fled the war-torn country to neighboring Iran. Their number is estimated at more than three million, more than half of whom are undocumented. This makes Iran the country with the second-highest number of Afghan refugees after Pakistan. Their situation is very precarious: they work in the informal sector, have no fair access to an asylum procedure and are repeatedly threatened by arbitrary deportation waves. 11For the situation of Afghan refugees in Iran see Grawert, Elke: Rückkehr afghanischer Flüchtlinge aus Iran, in: bpb, 2018, https://www.bpb.de/gesellschaft/migration/laenderprofile/277617/rueckkehr-afghanischer-fluechtlinge (26.10.2020). And: Human Rights Watch: Iran: Afghan Refugees and Migrants Face Abuse, in: Human Rights Watch, 2013, https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/11/20/iran-afghan-refugees-and-migrants-face-abuse (26.10.2020).
At the age of twelve Mahdi decided to flee to Europe because of the difficult political situation in Iran and the racism against Afghans there. At the age of fourteen, he set off by car and on foot to Turkey, from there to Greece and across Europe to Berlin.
After his arrival in Berlin, Mahdi lived for over a year in various shelters for refugees until he moved into a shared apartment. Mahdi graduated from secondary school and is now doing his vocational baccalaureate at a school for fashion design. Since 2018 he has had a residence permit in Germany, which is valid until 2021. Then he has to apply for an extension for another three years. He hopes to study or do an apprenticeship in Germany until then, so that he can get another extension of his residence permit and sometime an unlimited residence permit.
In the interview excerpt, Mahdi tells us that the encounter with his German classmates was difficult at first because their life situation gave them little understanding of his story. But Mahdi remained strong. Today he says that he has some “real” friends in Berlin and is proud of how well he learned German.
Footnotes
1For the situation of Afghan refugees in Iran see Grawert, Elke: Rückkehr afghanischer Flüchtlinge aus Iran, in: bpb, 2018, https://www.bpb.de/gesellschaft/migration/laenderprofile/277617/rueckkehr-afghanischer-fluechtlinge (26.10.2020). And: Human Rights Watch: Iran: Afghan Refugees and Migrants Face Abuse, in: Human Rights Watch, 2013, https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/11/20/iran-afghan-refugees-and-migrants-face-abuse (26.10.2020).
The interview with Mahdi A. was conducted on 15.07.2020 by We Refugees Archive in Berlin.